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Author Topic: SCREAM QUEENS STUPIDITY THREAD
calmmounta-
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Post Re: SCREAM QUEENS STUPIDITY THREAD
on: September 8, 2011, 19:56
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Yea. The whole idea that one moment people can preach "Kids are the future, education is the key!" and then the economy takes a hit andthese exact same people can turn around and say "Well, times are tough, forget this fancy schooling thing. These stupid modern kids will never accomplish much anyway" ....

It just boggles the mind. I really never understood how this one value became so...negotiable. It's like... Adults want their kids to do better, to have all the things that they didn't have as kids but also... Deep down... They don't really believe that their kids can or will do better. And so if the economy takes a hit - and even if it doesn't - what do we do? We cut education.

When we cut education... Are we, as a society, punishing the kids? Giving up on them? Blaming them? Perpetuating negative stereotypes, especially in relation to the generation gap? Gambling on the idea that they have to really sufffer and be misguided before they can maybe turn into good brilliant people who will be able to undo some of the damage? I don't know how to interpret this.

The government is rotten on a lot of things but on this issue, it might actually be a near-accurate reflection of the majority of the people that it governs. In my humble opinion.

Out here... Something that...did not impress me... One of the cities, when the political people made the local school budget... They deliberately set all the numbers and predictions very high. Oh it's gonna be great, good times, etc. All this nice talk to get people excited and names in the newspaper. And then what happens - those same political people, they cut the funding. Redistribute the money. Oh no, crisis mode now. Worry and speculation, etc. More time for their names in the newspaper. But here's the kicker - the funds they 'cut' were apparently just renamed and shuffled around. So the money was still there. They just wanted to 'award' it to the school later, makes themselves look good - all heroic, etc.

The 'bonus' funding... Was meant to be part of the original budget, you see? The schools did not actually end up with anything extra. All we got was a bunch of greedy old men wanting attention - and using this as a way to get it.

And we're paying them to come up with this junk, you know? They get benefits for life for doing crud like this. It's considered standard, to do crud like this. It is considered serving the people. How sad is that?

You know what I would like to see someday? Forget political campaigns. Forget all this jumping through legal hoopla and one person spending the equivalent of the gross national budget of some small countries on propoganda, forget cable-only exclusive debates and so forth... Give me the candidates, all of them, and lets stick them on a series of game shows. Start with that Are you Smarter than a Fifth Grader show and work up to the shows that require the contestants to have some practical problem-solving skills. Maybe Survivor or The Amazing Race?

Whoever wins gets the job and, the moment they are sworn in, is thrown in prison. The office they work from - it's a prison. That way, we always know where to find them and their accomidations are already secure and being paid for on taxpayer money and it will just generally save a lot of trouble, if they should happen to try and abuse their power. Right?

On to other things....

Chastity-san, about going to hell - I've had people tell me that too. For a wide varitey of reasons, most of which were blatantly ridiculous. And there seem to people who enjoy saying it, you know? They enjoy feeling superior and using this empty threat to try and force people to conform to their ideas. They generally don't like having it pointed out that a)their threat is empty and b)wasn't their god supposed to be peaceful and kind to everybody?

So when someone says it, laugh. Okay? Being angry or offended or hurt is understandable but it doesn't help you brush it off. Taking such threats seriously only empowers/enables the threatener, understand? If you try to reason with them, they will get the idea that their opinion suddenly matters and has power over you. So just don't even give them that foothold. Laugh and walk away.

If it gives you any peace or fulfillment... Many religions have - somewhere at their overlooked core - more in common than they would care to admit. And that includes the idea that their path is not the only path.

Courage & Peace

Scream_Que-
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Post Re: SCREAM QUEENS STUPIDITY THREAD
on: September 10, 2011, 04:00
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What never ceases to astound and disgust me at the same time is people who claim to follow Jesus and then carry out the most sinister, heanus, and evil atrocities in his name. When, if they actually stopped long enough to take the time to read the new Testament, they'd see that Jesus was a passive man who never raised a hand to anyone, and yet people all over the world rape, rob, and kill in his honor. I liken Jesus to Buddah in that they were both passive, peace-loving men, who never wronged anyone.

There is a passage in the Old Testament that says, "God created man in his own image, after his likeness", and if that is the case, and we are all given free-will by God himself, then no 2 people will have the exact same path to enlightenment. If we were gifted with individuality, then that means that we will all see truths in a different light, and thus different spiritual paths. It doesn't matter whose right and whose wrong, it just matters that each and every one of us be respected for our individual beliefs.

People in the Middle Ages believed the same thing, religiously, and it gave birth to the Inquisition, and eventually the Witch Trials, and millions of people were burned at the stake simple because they didn't subscribe to the beliefs of the Church, and the Inquisition is still going on today in my opinion. The American government claims that this country is the "land of the free, and the hone of the brave" but that only applies to Christains. if you're a Jew, a Muslim, A wiccan, A Satanist, or belong to any other faith, you are viewed as doing the Devils Work, and you are ostrcised by the rest of the community. People talk about the so-called "good Christian Values" but then they turn around and persecute the rest of the faiths, making thenm hypocrites.

I have an uncle by marriage that was born Jewish, and is now a Baptist minister, which is a contradiction in terms, because the Talmud says that if you are born Jewish, then you are Jewish no matter what. So, basically he is nothing but a fraud because he's practicing and preeching on a religion that he has nothing to do with and walking away from his birthright as a Jew. I've read about a sect called Messianic Judaism, which is a round-about way of saying that you are a Christian, because the ZOrthodox Jewish faith says that the Messiah has yet to be born, and/or arrive, and to say that you're a Jew while believing in Jesus as the Messiah is nothing short of hypocrocy at it's very worst. If you believe in Jesus as Messiah then you are a Christian, not a Jew, period!

This whole religious debate has been going on for centuries, if not millenia, and still people die because of it. Instaed of teaching about prejudice, persecution, and warfare, we should be teaching about religious tolerance, and respect for all life. The whole religious debate is nothing more than an exercise in stupidity because not only does it acomplish nothing, but it always leads to fighting, and wars that cost people their lives. It's a senseless waste in my opinion to engage in war over religion, because no matter which side wins, everyone loses because of the death and destruction that is left behind as a result of war.

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halochild
Post Re: SCREAM QUEENS STUPIDITY THREAD
on: September 10, 2011, 18:52
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I was going to say that I feel a little offended here, but I'm probably better off just not even responding to that rant. I should probably take Calmmountain's advice, laugh, and walk away.

But I will say that I have never once, ever, slammed anyone else's religion here at this website. I have the utmost respect for it.

Halochild

Scream_Que-
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Post Re: SCREAM QUEENS STUPIDITY THREAD
on: September 11, 2011, 06:26
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I wasn't referring to you, Halo or anyone else here at RVD.com I was referring to history itself. I got a man in my life right now that constantly preeches to me about Jesus and the whole nines, and I was and am simply annoyed by the constant religious talk from him is all, lol!

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halochild
Post Re: SCREAM QUEENS STUPIDITY THREAD
on: September 11, 2011, 09:31
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My apologies if I misunderstood what you meant, but please understand that when you make negative comments about Christians or people who follow Jesus, that means me.

I'm used to people making negative comments about Christians and usually I just sit here and I don't say anything. I just ignore it because I like to get along with everyone and try to respect people's opinions. Besides, Jesus said, not in these exact words, something like "they will hate you because they have hated me first". And I'm okay with that. People can say some really nasty things about Christians. But for some reason, I just took your particular words really personally.

Scream_Que-
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Post Re: SCREAM QUEENS STUPIDITY THREAD
on: September 12, 2011, 08:34
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I'm sorry for that Halo i never meant it to be taken in that way. all that rant was about was a frustrated woman who has a man trying to convert her and change her into his mold, which i have no intention of doing. when and if i follow Christianity is my choice, lol, and not his.

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calmmounta-
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Post Re: SCREAM QUEENS STUPIDITY THREAD
on: September 12, 2011, 20:27
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Chastity-san - Be careful. If a guy feels that he has to convert/'save' you in order to love you... That's not a good sign. That's not respect. That's the kind of 'favor' some religious twerps think they can hold over you forever. So get some distance, if you need it.

And be careful, as well, not to step on your toes. Defeat yourself, you see. If you want people to show more tolerance for all religions then remember, you are people too. Be the change you want to see, isn't that how the saying goes? So while it is understandable to be fed up with the guy - this is a test for you. You can't be expecting him to respect your beliefs if you're slamming his. If you're putting down his faith, that's maybe why he tends to be overly defensive on the issue? You might be subconsciously inviting/enabling the subject to remain at the forefront of the relationship. There is sometimes a pattern of psychology to this kind of tension.

Have you ever heard of the Zen Master, Thich Nhat Hanh? Perhaps some of his writings would be of use to you. *shrugs*

Meh. I always kinda felt that religion was, by simple definition, a social belief system. Granted, rather a number of people these days are rather anti-social about it but...Yea. It was meant to bring groups together more than divide them, originally. Spirituality, meanwhile, is an individual pusuit. Truly, to each their own.

And now for something completely different, and back on the topic to which this thread was designed for...

Apparently there is an actual law, in actual city, written on actual legal paper which says that detonating a nuclear device within city limits will result in a five hundred dollar fine. Among the many flaws in this law: how is anyone going to issue you a fine, if the city is no longer there?

*sigh* And we PAY lawmakers to come up with this crud...

Courage & Peace

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